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wasted potential

Elijah - I am not bragging about my situation versus those who were hit hard. We can debate the whys and hows of the economy and jobs and such, but I understand that to you little of that rhetoric is going to matter.

As to the deficits, I know that many will think this is heresy, but I just do not care about them right now. These things move from 10 years of deficits, to 10 years of surpluses, then back to 10 years of deficits. The CBO was off on this year's deficit by about $100 billion and that was just a one year forecast. If the economy continues to grow, the economy will take care of the deficits, provided our elected officials don't continue to increase spending.

Now, if I could elect myself president, I would introduce a budget cutting nearly every non-essential federal bearacracy, allowing more tax dollars to go to services and not the self serving public empoyees union. Not to be considered an uncompassionate conservative, I would provide job training to all of those employees with the savings.

I would then LOWER TAXES AGAIN! Even Alan Greenspan agrees with this type of reasoning. The more capital people and corporations have, the more they will spend.

Lastly, I would provide international companies incentives to insource their manufacturing in the US, penalizing them if they do not. We already have a lot of insourcing going on, but the overseas companies building factories in the US are putting them in right to work states, as the unions have priced their labor too high for these companies. All I would do is use tax incentives and tariffs to a small degree to accomplish this.

I realize that most free marketers and both John Kerry and President Bush would disagree with this policy, but I think it does make common sense. However, I would have to elect myself governor of all of the rust belt states too to pass right to work legislation in order for those hardest hit to see this relief.

Elijah

Linda : I think that is the problem. Why would you want an "average joe" President. Shouldn't a President have something that stands out above the rest? Shouldn't a President have uber responsibility that lets you know our tax money is safe with him? Shouldn't a President have the inspiration to keep our country together?

Jeffraham Prestonian

wasted: "What kind of IT work did you do? I know that after the .com burst and we got through the whole Y2k scare, a lot of IT professionals had to replace their incomes."

I'm a multimedia specialist, but they called me a "senior application engineer." I've worn a lot of hats in the IT world, which often makes me "overqualified" for jobs that pay even half what my last one paid, ironically. Me and these crazy Internets have been together for eighteen years. Thanks for your concerns, but I'm doing fine right now, even without the Fortune 500 job. Lots of friends, and a bustling, lucrative business selling torches & pitchforks on eBay (not reported to the IRS, heh heh).
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RocketPunch

George Bush today: The Democratic Party has a great tradition of leading this country with strength and conviction in times of war.

wtfwjd?

Just a note for all of you who get your news from one of those "slanted" news organizations. Bush needs to hold ALL of the states he won in 2000. Kerry only needs to hold the states Gore won in 2000, plus win a small Bush state like New Hampshire, West Virginia, or Arkansas.

2000 states Bush is presently in danger of LOSING are Ohio (20), Florida (27), New Hampshire (4), Colorado (9), Missouri (11), West Virginia (5), Arkansas (6), Virginia (13), and New Mexico (5).

Gore states that Kerry is presently in danger of losing are: Hawaii (4) -- but noone is taking those 2 polls seriously.

Which is why Democrats are so fired up. Short of any serious cheating by the Republicans, we've got this thing locked up.

The latest polls out of Florida are showing Kerry up by 4 to 9 points. The momentum is on our side.

Internal polling by the GOP shows Kerry winning 52 to 47, which is why they are in full panic mode. Kerry's not just going to squeak by -- he's going to win more than 300 votes in the electoral college. If the Dems can really mobilize their base, it could be a good deal higher.

wasted potential

Phoenician - you use sarcasm so much, that I, being a dim-whitted conservative Christian, cannot follow you and your enlightened arguments.

I will not denigrate your postings as mine was last night. However, it does appear that the occupationwatch website has a definite agenda and so I would need to further research any of their findings before jumping on the bandwagon that the majority of Iraqi people hate America for setting them free from Saddam Hussein.

I have never been to Iraq, so it is possible for me to be wrong on what the Iraqi people are thinking. Where are we using Apache helicopters on civilians? Are you referring to Fallujah?

Jeffraham Prestonian

namestealer: "and kerry don't make no sense neither -- he say there ain't no wmd in iraq, but say that really special dangerous weapons were there that Bush should have ordered his commanders to get, no matter what other prioties they got."

He said that, or did he say seizing and/or destroying explosives SHOULD have been a priority, and MIGHT have been, if Bush would have listened to Shinseki, and had enough boots on the ground to make sure we could both secure explosives AND do statue-pulling photo ops at the same time?

"well, those funny things in the sky -- satellites -- show dat saddam up and moved dem explosives before de U.S. got there."

Do you have a funny thing on the Internets -- a URL -- you can share, where we can see these photos ourselves, so we don't have to just think you're pulling our other leg?

"ain't no Wmd of course, but we are now in much greater danger because this stuff may be in the hands of the insurgents."

See, that's pre-9/11 thinking, right there. Nineteen guys proved you don't need WMD to kill 3000+ Americans. Yes, our troops, and perhaps even citizens at home ARE in greater danger because of ALL the ineptitude enacted by the Bush administration. al Qaqaa is just the latest display of incompetence to come to light.
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RocketPunch

wtf - Common sense on this issue. Kerry will get Gore voters and then some due to the MASSIVE new voters on the DEM side. Just here in Florida alone new registration was up 60% for DEM and only 12% for REP. Bush won't be able to hold onto his 2000 voters. Many feel they made a mistake with W. He has already started pushing away the Christian vote with his CIVIL UNION talk and true conservatives think he is the biggest threat to the future of their party. With all of that, it doesn't add up for Bush ... unless there are voting problems. Florida is already having problems with touch screen (only in DEM stronghold areas) Voter Cage lists set for Black areas. Lost ballads ... the list goes on. We're going to be a mess this year but not by accident.

wasted potential

Wtfwjd? - Ah, I do believe that some of the pollsters out there are biased, but when Zogby polls show that Bush is ahead in FL, OH, NV and NM (Gore state), tied with Kerry in IA (Gore state) and leading in many polls in WI (Gore state). Then Quinnipac shows NJ (Gore State) tied.

Let me understand, are you asserting that John Zogby is a right wing conservative stooge and Quinnipac is in the tank for Bush?

Sorry, but I believe that your information must be coming from "slanted" news organizations if you are seeing a "Kerry landslide."

wtfwjd?

P.S. remember that on the eve of the 2000 election polls of "likely voters" were predicting that Bush would beat Gore in the popular vote by 4%. Of course Gore won the popular vote.

THIS YEAR, the polls of "likely voters" are predicting that MORE Republicans will vote than did in 2000, and fewer Democrats will. Of course the opposite is going to be true, which is why Bush needs to be up by at least 6 points nationally to feel confident of winning the popular vote on Tuesday.

Bush's numbers haven't gotten above 48% nationally*, which is very very poor showing for an incumbent in a 2-way race. At this point in 1996, Clinton's numbers were at 49%, and that's EXACTLY what he got. Perot and Dole each picked up about 3% versus their pre-election polling numbers.

Undecideds always break for the challenger by about 4-to-1.

* among "LIKELY voters" (see caveat above)

wasted potential

Jeffraham - Direct me to your ebay posting and I will gladly buy some pitchforks and torches from you!

RocketPunch

wasted potential - I believe he is talking about early voting counts, not polls. I can confirm the Florida number has Kerry up by 4 to 9% I read it several times yesterday on various local websites. However, Florida DEM's still doubt the vote will be legal here. A little cynical, maybe, but 2000 still stings for us.

wasted potential

JP - I meant to add that the pitchfork and torch would greatly aid me in my phyisical intimidation of those poor and minority voters on election day :)

wtfwjd?

Wasted:

"Zogby polls show that Bush is ahead in FL, OH, NV and NM"

Yes, but by the thinnest of margins, and well within the margin of error.

And this is based on the presumption of low turnout by the Dems. In Philadelphia, for example, only 48% of registered Dems voted in 2000. This year, that nummber is expected to top 60%. That's why Bush has conceded PA.

Linda

And the fact that Rendell has disenfranchised the military vote in PA????

jaybo

wtfwjd?,

(undecideds always break for the challenger)
You are quoting a statistic that is only valid for congressional races. The presidential races do not show this trend. In fact, I have heard some analysts state that the "undecideds" go for the incumbent because they finally decide to go with what they are familiar with.

RocketPunch

Folks - I got 2 calls in the last 30 minutes from friends who went to early vote and "weren't on the list". One of those people was my mother. She has voted in every major election and hasn't moved in 6 years! Yes, we will have problems. Here is another report I just read.

" never got my voter registration card through the mail, decided to go and vote early yesterday just in case there was a problem so I could fix it if need be. There was. I'm not on The List. I can't vote. This morning I went to the Supervisor of Elections office and they confirmed that. Then I called 1-866-OUR-VOTE and spoke to a lawer to register my complaint. He told me that Broward county has been registering an "absurdly high" volume of complaints, that pretty much everything that can go awry has, and that so far 15,000 people have called from Broward and Dade counties because they didn't recieve their registration cards. Apparently nobody has been able to get through to the Election Supervisors office by phone for more than a week now, so some of them called OUR VOTE. *sigh* When they spoke to the Election Board about it , the problem was blamed on the postal service. 15,000 pieces of randomly 'lost' mail. "

Point - there are still problems up the wazzoo down here. REPS and DEMS should be upset by this stuff. I know we all want things to be honest.

wasted potential

Early voting results in Florida - OK, what % of the populace is voting early? What precints are these anecdotal stories coming from? Could be true, but I am skeptical.

What about the vote do you think won't be legal in Florida? The last election was perfectly legal, the debate was over hanging chads, supposedly confusing ballots, etc ... To show you how different our two sides think, my fear in this election is that the dems will use early voting to vote early ... and often. When we have people in OH being paid crack cocaine by the NAACP to register Mary Poppins and Michael Jordan to vote, what else can you think?

Linda

Elijah

Isn't that why Kerry bought himself some camoflage and when hunting in Ohio last week? To prove he is Everyman? When his wife mutters crudities it is adorable. Bush flips the bird and he is unfit to be President? Please.

jaybo

Remember that the two pollsters that predicted the 2000 election the best were Gallup and Zogby.

Elijah

jaybo - that isn't true at all. The thought process being that undecided voters have had 4 years to know how they feel about an incumbent. If they don't know and they are "undecided" the trend shows they vote for change. It is common sense.

wasted potential

Bush has conceded PA? Funny, he was in Lancaster PA this morning. I did not hear it reported that he gave a "concession" speech there.

The battleground is in Western PA where the socially conservative message on guns and abortion resonates with the populace.

Elijah

Linda - if Kerry truly wasn't a hunter I would tend to agree. No doubt, his timing was stupid, but it isn't out of his character. But his one event doesn't match up to an entire lifetime of "average" for Bush.

Linda

And how often does he usually frequent Black Churches in the South?

RocketPunch

wasted potential - I never said those numbers meant anything, I was just clarifying what I believe was being said. Personally, I don't want to count my chickens before they hatch.

2000 brought us an illegal voting purge list. Every independent investigation of this list showed that it was 95% inaccurate. Already this year Jeb got busted ignoring advice to throw out a flawed felon voter list before it went out to county election offices despite warnings from state officials. We have touch screen machines with NO paper trail. And now there is news coming out about VOTER CAGING LISTS in black areas. I am still researching that one.

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