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RocketPunch

GWB-2004 - you site Zogby. Are you aware he called the race for Kerry?

Here is the latest NBC/Wall Street Journal's LAST poll before the election:

Bush 48%, Kerry 47%, with Nader at 1%.

I think it is important to look at the comparison of 2000. They had the following results in their last poll:

Bush 47%, Gore 44%, Nader 3% and Buchanan 2%

Bush has always hovered around the 47% number. Many experts say he can't break it. However, Democrats have a tradition of going beyond their polled numbers.

My favorite poll was the Nickelodian poll of 400,000 kids. Kerry won by 14 points in that poll. It has been acurate in predicting the winner since it first started polling 4 or 5 elections ago. This is an interesting number because young kids tend to mirror their parents choices.

NJDem

Caught Tucker on MSNBC this afternoon....
Interesting observation -
Bush Haters are far more passionate than Kerry Haters.
Buchanan also showed new poll that could be a factor -
New registrants (past 60 days) support Kerry better than 65% - 35% (can't remember the exact figures, but it was pretty lopsided.

GWB-2004

Rocket, If Zogby called the race for Kerry was he on NPR (which is a liberal channel like the rest) and said that he thinks Bush will win by a sizeable margin. He might of called it like 6 months ago, But you liberal slime bags think that your hate for Bush is going to get Kerry elected. If that were true Kerry would be way farther ahead in the polls and in the last week Kerry has done nothing but slip in the polls. Michigan, Hawaii, New Mexico Kerry has lost alot of ground in those states and people can bash Bush all they want, But when it comes down to it people will vote for Bush anyways because Kerry is such a loser.

Linda

My hope is that after all this is over we can live peacefully with each other. I (R-OH)love my brother dearly (D-NJ) but we haven't been able to have a civil conversation that doesn't deteriorate. I can't talk to my sister either (D-NJ) but thats a whole 'nother story :) Point is, one of us is going to lose, the other is going to win, in the end all this bickering really doesn't matter - we have to hope that we can work together to get AMERICA through this war and whatever else comes our way.

GWB-2004

Something that you liberals are forgetting is that out of the 10.6 Million christians voters that did not register to vote in 2000 almost 80% of them are voting this time and they will vote Bush's way. And there was about 7.2 million christians that did not vote before and I know most of them will vote this time and Vote Bush's way. That is what happens when you pick someone more liberal than Ted (hick up) Kennedy

RocketPunch

NJDem - Here in Florida new Democratic voter registration is up 60% over 2000. Republicans are up by only 15%. I did early voting on Friday and there were hundreds of people wrapped around the block. Kerry people had pins and Bush people has stickers. By my rough count it was Kerry 5 to 1 over Bush. There is no way Bush can take Florida in a fair election. We remember 2000. We remember the thousands turned away at the polls that were illegally purged from a list that was 95% inaccurate. Our only worry are the touch screen machines with NO paper receipt. They are in 4 major counties - all democratic strongholds.

With that said, my gut tells me Bush will get Florida by 1%. I feel like I am being groomed to accept it even though I know it isn't a valid number. I know that is cynical and I don't want to be that way ... but I can't help it.

FormerDeaniac

Dean got so much support because he was a anti war candidate>>>Most Deaniacs just wanted the troops to come home>>>>They were disappointed when Kerry took the Bush route of continuing the war>>>>Only person who stuck to the anti war stand was Nader>>>>True Deaniacs refused to flipflop on the war issue>>>>They felt the only way their voice would be heard was if they did not vote for either of the pro war candidates>>>>The only person who wants thetroops to come home is Nader>>>>So we will vote for Nader>>>> Ask Chris Matthews>>>> He said the same exact thing today>>>> He has met many such former Deaniacs who will vote for Ralph Nader

GWB-2004

Linda, I think when Bush wins it will only get worse. There is a web site and i will not go there that people are going to kill them selves if Bush wins. I think a type of an uprising from the left will occur and they will do what ever it takes to Get Bush out of office. I know that there next step will be to try and impeach Bush but it will not work because all of there claims are false. If anyone should be tried it should be Kerry for meeting the Viet-Cong in france and wimping out of the war after 4 months.

RocketPunch

GWB - I'll show you mine if you show me yours. Here is the link to Zogby yesterday. He was also on TV last week calling it for Kerry.

http://nydailynews.com/front/story/247447p-211694c.html

Also - from 2 days ago - Pew Research Center for the People and the Press found that 70% of self-described evangelicals or born-again Christians planned to vote for the president. This is certainly a big chunk of people but most believe it isn't nearly enough to carry him especially since many of those new voters are in states he already has.

And please, my friend, I don't hate you or your party. There is no need to be hostile with me with the liberal slimebag thing. It is getting tiresome.

GWB-2004

I am a hard core Bush supporter. But I know if Dean was the canidate he would of beat Bush. But the Left made sure that did not happen so they could prep Hillary for 2008.

RocketPunch

Linda - I hear you. My bother-in-law doesn't talk to me anymore. I too hope we can all come in this blog on Wednesday and look to the future. It probably won't happen ... it will take time, but we'll all be okay so long as we really want to be.

GWB-2004

Rocket, As you see in Michigan Bush is not a for sure winner here and we have more churches in Michigan than in any other state. And I live here and I know the church is going to get the vote out. The fact of the matter is that if Bush takes Michigan it is over for Kerry. Kerry has no chance without Michigan. That is why Bush has spent 4 days here and he has come from 8-11 points down to 3-5 points or a tie here.

RocketPunch

FormerDeaniac - By voting for Nader you give power to Bush. Why do you think most of his funding is coming from the GOP. He even got money from the Swift Boat Veteran financers!Getting Bush in office will, I'm sorry to say, guarantee more War and violence. Things are going bad in Iraq and it is boiling over in terrible ways. Just today ...

Irainian parliament members are shouting "Death to America!" as they vote to continue their uranium-enrichment program.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=212964

Linda

GWB2004 - I think you are right on track. How scary is Hillary 2008????

George Bush is speaking to a packed crowd at Great American Ballpark (Cincy OH) as we speak. There is no way he won't win OH!

Linda

RP - win or lose, see you Wednesday morning...respectfully.

Jeffraham Prestonian

Linda: "How scary is Hillary 2008????"

If the GOP has a mantra, it is surely "Clintonitis will unite us!" :)
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GWB-2004

Rocket, Now let's be honest. What is it you like about Kerry. He is not the man I want protecting our country. It is pretty bad when OSMA comes out and in a way Back Kerry. That just goes to show you who they want. Second Kerry has been on the wrong side of history for a war time president. And also Teresa is not the woman I want representing our country. My neighbor was a Kerry supporter until she started blabbing her mouth. She is class-less and you can not argue that.

RocketPunch

GWB-2004 - I'm sorry but there is nothing to suggest that Michigan is the magic puzzle piece in this election. A swing-state? Sure, but it is no Florida or Ohio or Pennsylvania which all carry more electoral votes then Michigan.

GWB-2004

I think Bush will win ohio for sure. He has had the biggest crowds there out of any state. He had 60,000 2 weeks ago and had 45,000 there last week and the crowd today is also huge.

GWB-2004

Rocket, If Bush takes Michigan and Ohio or Michigan and Flordia it is over for Kerry.

GWB-2004

The thing kerry also screwed up on is picking Edwards as his running mate. If Kerry would die or not be able to run the country Edwards has no experience to do it. He is not even liked in his own state. We just had a UAW union in Grand Rapids, Mi reverse there backing this week to Bush. Everyone is over looking Michigan But watch out because we will suprise people like Hawaii is.

RocketPunch

GWB - Yes, I know the talking points. France is bad and the United Nations is evil. ;)

What I like about Kerry. To rehash a previous post ...

Policy is truly what separates Bush from Kerry to me. It is compacted by Bush's four years of disaster, but even without it, I would have the same views about Kerry. Those who weren't sure about him got fired up during the debates. You have to admit he handled himself very well and I see solutions in his answers from Terrorism to the Environment. For me, especially, I have a great amount of respect for the side of Kerry that Republicans hate the most. I was very moved by a 28 year old Kerry giving his speech on the Hill to testify for the Anti-War movement. I was motivated by his debate with John O'Neil on the Dick Cavitt show. I look at him at 28, I look at me at 28, I look at Bush at 28 and I can't help but respect his accomplishments. Bottom line is, I believe Kerry is the man to get our economy back into shape, improve our standing in the world and help us to start to heal as a nation.

It really isn't that hard to like Kerry once you look past all the propaganda and distortions. He has always been a big support of defense, law enforcement, civil rights and the environment. I have enjoyed his speeches on foreign relations. I think he has a lot to offer this country.

Bill Evans

Zogby painted himself into a corner months ago by saying the election was Kerry's to lose. He may yet be right, but I'd rather be in Bush's position than Kerry's.

Lupin - that's an interesting moniker. Why did you chose it?

RocketPunch

GWB-2004 - I think you are right if he gets MI and FL or MI and OH it could be Bush, no doubt about it. But, he would end up possibly winning by electoral and not popular again. That would be bad ... very bad.

Bill Evans

not as bad as losing the popular vote and the electoral college. Now THAT would be very bad.

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