Quiet

ABC News' The Note (Noted Now) just posted this:

>>BUSH IN GRAND RAPIDS, MI: Does not address OBL tape but hush falls over crowd when Bush delivered terror portion of standard stump speech, ABC News' Terry Moran reports.>>

It's the kind of quiet that I think most voters experience in the voting booth.

With the stakes so high, a lot of the noise we're still hearing on the campaign trail might be masking an early but growing calm. Many - not all - voters everywhere are reminded just how serious this is.

Take Note of this, too:

>>White House aide Dan Bartlett says Bush will not discuss OBL tape again or Kerry's Tora Bora charge. <<

P.S. I'll try to keep my noise emissions low when I go on Fox News late tomorrow morning, around 11:30 eastern.

Comments

[Bill Evans]

I was privileged to attend the Bush rally in Columbus, Ohio, last night. There were 25,000 people at the rally in this mostly demorat county.

In contrast, Kerry *claims* to have attracted 20,000 to the south oval of Ohio State on Thursday. The south oval couldn't hold 20,000 people if everyone had someone on their shoulders. Not only that, but half of the crowd left as soon as Springstein quit singing. We were all proud of the 600 or so college Republicans who showed up with flip flops and aquitted themselves well in interviews on radio and TV.

On to the Bush rally. There wasn't an empty seat in the house, and the floor of Nationwide arena, minus the ice (NHL morons!) was as full as they would allow. The crowd was boisterous, upbeat, and deafeningly loud. When the Governator was introduced, followed by President Bush, the standing ovation lasted over 10 minutes. Every time Arnold tried to speak, the crowd got louder. It was incredible.

Arnold spoke about his love of Ohio. Not a political love. He won his first world bodybuilding title here. He comes to Columbus every year for the Arnold Classic, a bodybuilding competition which adds millions to the central ohio economy. He talked about the great gift of freedom and the American dream. He made it clear that Bush was the right man in the right job at the right time. He left off the girlie man comments, though. It was inspiring.

Then, the president spoke. He was really uplifted after a long day on the campaign trail. He was firm, resolute, and pointed out clear choices in this election on national security, the economy, education, and the great moral issues of our day. When he talked about UBL, the crowd was hushed, much as Tucker described from Saturday. People don't take too kindly to threats from madmen. Nor to politicians who pander to them. Kerry couldn't resist taking a cheap shot at Bush over this one, despite the president's restraint. The president mentioned this in the Columbus rally. As Kerry's desperation grows, his mistakes mount. Missing explosives? Jump right on. Mismanagement at Tora Bora? Open mouth, insert foot.

All in all, it was worth leaving work 2 hours early, standing in line, and waiting for 3 hours for the president to arrive. They showed the Kerry on Iraq video. If you haven't seen it, go to www.kerryoniraq.com. If you know someone who is waffling, make sure they see it.

Call 3 friends and make sure they get to the polls to vote for the President.

Also, pray for me personally, as I am a poll observer/challenger for President Bush here in Franklin County, Ohio. It is a demorat stronghold. There are more registered voters than there are people over the age of 18 (One of 4 counties in Ohio where that is the case). We will be trying our best to make sure that only people legally registered to vote are allowed to do so.

Now is the time to work hard to make sure George W Bush is reelected!

[Poppy]

Kerry's basic argument is Bush failed to kill Bin laden when he had the chance.

Bush's argument back should be - KERRY NEVER BELIEVED IN KILLING BIN LADEN OR ANY OTHER TERRORIST WHO KILLS AMERICANS. KERRY OPPOSED
THE DEATH PENALTY FOR TERRORISTS WHO KILL AMERICANS HIS ENTIRE CAREER. HE SAID IT WAS A MISTAKE, AND WAS TANTAMOUNT TO GOING SOFT ON TERRORISTS.

The Death penalty is the BIGGEST Reagan Democrat issue. The Bush campaign is competely dropping the ball on this issue. People will believe Kerry
when he says he is tougher then Bush if they don't know he has allways opossed killing terrorrists until he ran for President.

[Henry Schlatman]

Tucker,

Go to http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3080261/
MSNBC Question of the Day. It shows that an instant poll between Bush and Kerry on fighting Terror.
21% Bush 79% Kerry 14,121 responses

See you Sunday!

[Bill Evans]

Poppy -
Kerry's argument does not hold water and most people who are paying attention know it. Clinton said that foreign governments offered him Bin Laden, but he didn't take it because "we didn't have anything to hold him on".

As for "letting him go at Tora Bora", Tommy Franks has more than debunked that charge. Kerry has dropped it from his campaign spewage. Not only that, but they have removed the references both in his speeches and from his website to missing explosives now that people know Kerry jumped blindfolded into quicksand.

Dropping the ball? There are so many avenues of attack it's hard to know what will really be effective. Realclearpolitics.com, which averages all the relevant polls, has the president's lead expanding. For Kerry to win the electoral college, everything has to break his way. The contests now are really in states Gore won 4 years ago by razorthin margins.

Now is the time for confident, poised, and principled hard work. Republicans here in Ohio have the best turn out the vote plan ever. As I type this, thousands of my collegues are walking neighborhoods and calling voters to get out the vote. On Tuesday, we will be there to disenfrancise the dead voters and terrorists (yes, that's right, terrorists) the dems have registered. We will also be watching our voters and calling the ones who haven't voted by mid-afternoon. The Dems will not outwork us here. Not only that, but the president can even lose Ohio (which will not happen) and win the presidency.

So, in conclusion, Go Buckeyes! and keep the faith. We will win by staying focused and positive in the final 72 hours.

[RocketPunch]

Bill - Am I wrong or is Tommy Franks on the campaign trail for Bush now. I think that explains some of his support for Bush in direct contradiction of the facts, even his own facts.

According to a widely-reported background briefing by Pentagon officials in mid-December 2001 there was "reasonable certainty" that bin Laden was indeed at Tora Bora, a judgment based on intercepted radio transmissions. In his autobiography, American Soldier, General Franks himself recounts a scene in Waco, Texas in December 2001 where he briefed President Bush saying, "Unconfirmed reports that Osama has been seen in the White Mountains, Sir. The Tora Bora area" Moreover, Luftullah Mashal, a senior official in Afghanistan's Interior Ministry, told me that based on conversations he had with a Saudi al Qaeda financier and bin Laden's chef, both of whom were at the battle, bin Laden was at Tora Bora. In June, 2003 several US counterterrorism officials said, "We are confident that he [bin Laden] was at Tora Bora and disappeared with a small group." And Palestinian journalist, Abdel Bari Atwan, a consistently accurate source of information about al Qaeda, has reported that bin Laden was wounded in the shoulder at Tora Bora. Indeed, in an audiotape released on al Jazeera television last year bin Laden himself recounted his own memories of the battle. "We were about three hundred holy warriors. We dug one hundred trenches over an area of one square mile, so as to avoid the huge human losses from the bombardment." In short, there is plenty of evidence that bin Laden was at Tora Bora, and no evidence indicating that he was anywhere else at the time.

[Henry Schlatman]

Bill Evans,
November 2, 2004 is not about voting blue or red it is about VOTING AMERICAN! What is best for All Americans will allow us to be safe not Bush or Kerry.

[Bill Evans]

Henry -
You must be desparate citing a non-scientific web poll. Don't worry, you'll be out of your misery soon. It will all be over Tuesday and Kerry can slither back to the Senate.

For the real deal on who America trusts on the war on terror:

Voters continue to say Bush would do a better job on terrorism (+16 points), Iraq (+10 points), and "protecting your family" (+12 points). Similarly, when asked which candidate would more aggressively fight terrorism, voters pick Bush by 61 percent to 28 percent.
Fox News/Opinion Dynamics, 10/30/04.

When it comes to national defense and the War on Terror, 51% of voters prefer Bush and 44% Kerry. A week ago, the President held a nine-point advantage on this question, 52% to 43%. Rasmussen Reports, 10/29/04.

I could go on, but this is really tedious. I resign from responding to moronic trolls.

[T. Kosciusko]

>>I'll try to keep my noise emissions low<<

Good idea. God forbid the other side figure out how responsible we are for treating OBL as a nuisance instead of a threat. Let's just hope Kerry doesn't have the presence of mind to run the tape of Our Leader saying, "I'm not concerned about him" and especially hope they don't show the preface where Great Leader says, "To be honest with you..." Taken together, it says, "To be honest with you, I'm not concerned about him," and I've come to learn that when Dear Leader says, "To be honest with you" he is telling the truth. When he's lying, he usually says "of course".

[Bill Evans]

Rocket - (really, this is my last response to moronic demorat trolls)

One of two things is true:
1) Tommy Franks is a lying weasel who is campaigning for Bush . . . or

2) Tommy Franks is a highly principled, highly decorated career soldier who believes George Bush is the man needed for the job.

You make the call.

[T. Kosciusko]

Oh, and another good reason it's good to keep the noise emissions low, is because the Department of Homeland Security has been instructed by the campaign to pick up the ball. It's much better if the scare tactic comes from them and not Dear Leader.

[RocketPunch]

Bill - there is a 3) Franks backs away from his own words because it would be damaging for him not to do so. My bet is he will end up in the Carlyle Group. But, I ask you - should I believe Franks words today which have no basis of support or Franks words yesterday that are supported by EVERY OTHER REFERENCE ON THE SUBJECT.

Come on, man. You don't have to try so hard and you don't have to be so rude about it. What is up with people in here today. I have no desire to make personal insults.

Wasted Potential - where are you? I like talking to Republicans who don't need to make personal attacks to try and give off some false impression of superiority.

[Henry Schlatman]

Bill,
First off, I would trust a poll on the internet where most people our honest over the numbers that the Poll Masters are making Millions on.

Remember, the presidentail race is a like a football game. If the media told it was a blow out than they would lose money. Stop and think why is it costing the Dems and Reps over $400 Million dollars for a job that pays only $400,000/yr. Who's side is fooling who?

Tommy Franks is just like you and others. He is doing his best to cover Bush's Butt.

[Bill Evans]

Hey,
Let's all go to download.com, download the batch file that allows us to vote thousands of times on internet polls, and put Bush ahead. If you want to do this manually, vote, delete cookies, return to vote, delete cookies, vote, . . .

Or, we can ignore the useless internet polls. Don't be snowed by moronic trolls.

[Bill Evans]

does anyone believe MSNBC has 14,000 viewers? lol

[Bill Evans]

http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/10/30/134736.shtml

Kerry Endorsed Bush's Tora Bora Strategy

After Osama bin Laden released his pre-election video yesterday, John Kerry repeated his criticism that President Bush let the terror kingpin get away by "outsourcing" the job to Afghan forces when we had him cornered in the Tora Bora mountains.

But it turns out that in December 2001, when the Tora Bora operation was underway, Kerry endorsed Bush's tactics during an interview with CNN's Larry King.

Kerry said the Bush plan to get bin Laden "is having its impact, and it is the best way to protect our troops and sort of minimalize the proximity, if you will."
Lest anyone mistake his endorsement as half-hearted, Kerry added:

"I think we have been doing this pretty effectively, and we should continue to do it that way."

The quotes, unearthed Saturday by New York Times columnist David Brooks, only add to Kerry's image as a political opportunist who tailors his rhetoric to fit the moment.

According to Kerry, says Brooks: "When we rely on allies everywhere else around the world, that's multilateral cooperation, but when Bush does it in Afghanistan, it's 'outsourcing.' In Iraq, Kerry supports using local troops to chase insurgents, but in Afghanistan he is in post hoc opposition."

The Tora Bora contradiction exposes the credibility gap in Kerry's anti-terror pronouncements, says Brooks. "Many people are not sure that he gets the fundamental moral confrontation. Many people are not sure he feels it, or feels anything."

Can you say Flip-Flopping Waffle Head?

[wasted potential]

Rocket Punch: "Wasted Potential - where are you?"

Well, my wife decided that I have spent too much time with you guys (and gals, I'm not sure) the past few days, so I have had my computer privileges restricted. She left for a little bit, so I jumped back on to see what the latest disagreements were over. For some odd reason, I am addicted to this sort of forum.

Anyway, I know all of us dim-witted conservative Christian Republican men are to rule our homes with an iron of fist, but someone forgot to tell my wife. As she likes to say "He wears the pants, but I own the pockets." My term of endearment for her is "Chairman of the Board:)"

Actually, I am spending this weekend with her and the kids and couldn't be happier to do so. Maybe I'll catch you guys on Monday.

Oh yeah - Go Bush!

[Kathleen A]

When I heard that Osama put out another video all I could think was please don't let John Kerry (for America's sake) make it part of his stump speech crap. But he did. Disagreements in politics STOP at the water's edge, they used to say. But not with the Democrats. It doesn't affect them in the slightest that their talking points are being spouted by enemies that murdered 3,000 innocent people on 9/11. After Bush wins in a landslide on Tuesday - I hope for America's sake that everyone STOPS and THINKS before they open their mouths again. It's American to disagree - but when your enemies start sounding LIKE YOU - it's time to remember we're at WAR and they want you dead as much as they want me dead.

[Henry Schlatman]

Bill,
Your comment about trusting an internet poll that only allows some one to vote once unless the break the rules shows how much you do not believe in your fellowman.

[melior]

Fox says Terror Level Orange!

I'm so glad our brave Pretzeldent is on the job, he'll keep us safe just like he did from Osama.

Wait, why is Osama still alive?

[Chuck Gerald]

I tried to enter Kery Edwards site and ask a few questions. They sadi I could enter in 10 minutes or less,that was 7 hours ago.
I noticed they are reaching out to many minorities that might not vote if they are not coerced.
Theye would like you to go to "target" neighborhoods and find some one on the corner or wherever and offer them something for their vote.Like with Gore team offering cigarettes etc.

It is people like John Edwards that cause the lack of medical service in the Carolinas and elsewhere,with tying the hands of caregivers with their law suits.They are also responsible for outrageous ins. premiums. Shakespear was probably right

I just can not comprehend why anyone that loves America would do anything for him except maybe ask him to leave the country he does not support.
I noticed Hillary and the gang drug poor Christopher Reeves into the spotlight Friday again so they could rehash stem cell research. I doubt most of the supporters know what a stem cell is or where they come from.
My African minister best friend said it best."Good always wins over evil".

[Bill Evans]

WASHINGTON — U.S. officials have decided against raising the nation's terror alert after two tapes surfaced this week, one from Usama bin Laden (search) and the other from a man who identified himself as "Azzam the American," sources told FOX News.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137160,00.html

[Bill Evans]

I'm betting that if we get attacked, Bush will b e blamed for not raising the terror alert.

[Bill Evans]

Good luck getting to the kerry edwards site. I got kicked off in less than 15 hours. They have real watchdogs. Of course, I got right back in. If they can't secure their own website, how can they protect our country?

[son of BJU grad]

Posted by: Bill Evans | October 30, 2004 10:21 AM

and several others are just toooooooo looooonnnnngggg, duh! So i don't know what they said.

Posted by: Bill Evans | October 30, 2004 12:53 PM

Now THAT is more like it!! Kudoos!! In fact it has changed my mind about this election.

Got any stock advice? How about recommending a spermicide to spray at Osama when he slams another plane into my town.

That is what the boyking needs to get re-elected isn't it?

[wasted potential]

Couldn't resist this one when I heard about it:

"Former CBSNEWS anchorman Walter Cronkite believes Bush adviser Karl Rove is possibly behind the new Bin Laden tape.

"Cronkite made the startling comments late Friday during an interview on CNN.

"Cronkite said he is "inclined to think that Karl Rove, the political manager at the White House, who is a very clever man, he probably set up bin Laden to this thing."

"Interviewer Larry King did not ask Cronkite to elaborate on the provocative election eve accusation."

Hmmm ... let's see, Rove knows where Bin Laden is, he's so smart. He has outsmarted our entire miltary force and even our that of our allies. His true cleverness showed through by not tipping the rest of the administration off as to where he is so we could capture or lill Bin Laden, that never would have helped the president as much as a videotape of the guy.

Yeah, Rove the evil genius that commands the weather, the voting machines, the media and now even Bin Laden himself!

And that's the way it was .... Kind of scary to think that leftist lunatics like this held such a large command of our media for nearly 40 years without any opposition. I know he's an older guy and maybe its just dementia, senility or prescription drugs, but I just found this quote interesting.