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Ronald Reagan

Here is NBC's report: "A “lack of security” resulted in the loss of 377 tons of high explosives from the sprawling Al-Qaqaa military installation about 30 miles south of Baghdad, said Mohamed ElBaradei, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, or IAEA.

The IAEA fears “that these explosives could have fallen into the wrong hands,” said Melissa Fleming, a spokeswoman for the agency.

Whereabouts a mystery
ElBaradei told the council the IAEA had been trying to give the U.S.-led multinational force and Iraq’s interim government “an opportunity to attempt to recover the explosives before this matter was put into the public domain.”

But since the disappearance was reported in the media, he said he wanted the Security Council to have the letter dated, Oct. 10, that he received from Mohammed J. Abbas, a senior official at Iraq’s Ministry of Science and Technology, reporting the theft of the explosives.

The materials were lost through “the theft and looting of the governmental installations due to lack of security,” the letter said.

The letter informed the IAEA that since Sept. 4, 2003, looting at the Al-Qaqaa installation south of Baghdad had resulted in the loss of 214.67 tons of HMX, 155.68 tons of RDX and 6.39 tons of PETN explosives."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6323933/

Michigan

That's funny, the following was in an AP report on the story:

"At the Pentagon, an official who monitors developments in Iraq said US-led coalition troops had searched Al-Qaqaa in the immediate aftermath of the March 2003 invasion and confirmed that the explosives, which had been under IAEA seal since 1991, were intact. Thereafter the site was not secured by U.S. forces, the official said, also speaking on condition of anonymity."

I guess the "actually, we looked first thing, and didn't see anything!" excuse might hold, until the first evidence that IEDs are being made with this stuff comes up. Do you think this won't happen before the election Tucker?

By the way, people aren't feeling any joy at bad news. They're feeling anger. Bush is incompetent, and he and spinners such as yourself throw out excuses like guilty fratboys.

By the way, the ap story can be found at:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1098677410357

I couldn't help but notice you didn't link to the NBC story, Tucker.

REVENGE

GO GET THEM TUCKER. THIS IS KERRY INSULTING OUR TROOPS AGAIN. GEN. FRANKS AND HIS COMMAND STAFF MUST BE INCREDIBLY ANGRY AT THAT SCHMUCK.

IF THE PRESS COVERS THIS FAIRLY, KERRY DROPS ANOTHER 5 POINTS.

Jeffraham Prestonian

Ah, what a great attempt, Tuck. What will you do when the CIA produces a couple of guys on the Iraqi WMD snipe hunt that did the actual bio/chem testing on the materials found at al Qaqaa, and the commanding officer who requested permission to blow up what remained of the entire site, who was told NOT to? I think there'll be a tit or two in the wringer, winger.
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Ronald Reagan

Kerry's career in the military, protesting Vietnam, has been about defending troops from clowns in civilian leadership. That's also why he has stood up for working people in his life in public service.

Let me say this slowly: Calling Bush to task is not criticizing the troops, its speaking up for them against an intellectually challenged C-plus student who wouldn't know the friendly end of a rifle from the naughty end.

And that's coming from Ronald Reagan.

daver

Still doesn't answer the questions:

Why did the pentagon keep this a secret?

Why not report it to the IAEA?

Why is Iraq just now reporting it?

Why was Condi uninformed until a month ago?

Why is the WH desperately spinning this if it has nothing to hide?

Where the hell did it go, since the IAEA had it tagged, and the weapons inspectors knew of its existence and had it monitored?

Nice try, Tucker. Nice try, NBC. This doesn't get it. I'm sure Josh Marshall will be all over this as we speak.

By the way, guys, Kerry is not attacking the troops. (You know, the troops? The people you put in harm's way for a pack of lies? The ones whose health care the preznit tried to cut? The ones suffering stop-loss order cuz of this administration's incompetent planning? Those guys?) He is attacking policy.

So stop hiding behind the troops, you cowards, while you attack someone who actually wore the uniform in hostile lands, unlike Shrub.

Sibling Revelry

Tucker, why can't you tell the truth? It's embarrassing to see how a high official of the Bush administration has to resort to lies and distortions to cover for Dear Leader.

Your guy was C-in-C of the troops, and your guy didn't give the order to secure the Al QaQaa site, and our troops have been paying for the C-in-C's fuckup. (One of many, I might add.) It's not unAmerican to point out that George W. Bush and his administration, including people like YOU, Mr. Eskew, have blood on your hands.

Yup, it's harsh, but you know, when people are coming home in body bags as a result of Bush administration stupidity and cupidity, it has to be said.

trouble

Are you sure you didn't misread September 9, 2003 written the European way - 4/9/2003 (or else you switched the numbers accidentally)

that is, NOT March 9, it is SEPTEMBER FOURTH

The msnbc article spells out the month as "September 9th"

Michigan

REVENGE, lower your voice. We're trying to have a civil discussion here.

Ronald Reagan

OT: I'm glad Rehnquist is hanging on for a Kerry presidency. Nothing like a deathbed conversion.

denise

However,it is Ronald Reagan JR. That one is a democrat, a liberal and an atheist. He can spin with the best. You are calling the troops to task in my opinion and giving aid and comfort to the enemy - along with your obvious choice for president, John Kerry. He did that once before too. If the troops are so disillusioned, I wonder why they are voting 70+% for Bush. With regard to that c+ comment, NYT had an article that shows Bush's IQ is probably higher than Kerry's. What was Kerry's average by the way? Working people and Kerry ? ! Elitist and working man hmmm. I don't think that one adds up either.

CV36

Before you all resort to name calling, better check out drudge:

NBCNEWS: Huge Cache of Explosives Vanished From Site in Iraq -- At Least 18 Months Ago -- Before Troops Arrived


Ronald Reagan

Denise, Denise, Denise -- that's the Republican conceit, that the rich should only prefer their own. I know its hard for Republicans to make sense of decent people who are rich and stand up for those less fortunate. Please don't judge all the rich by the standards of your own greed.

section9

Awwwwww, poor little lefties can't take it?

Here, let's let Jim Miklacewzki brighten your day.....
NBC News: Miklaszewski: “April 10, 2003, only three weeks into the war, NBC News was embedded with troops from the Army's 101st Airborne as they temporarily take over the Al Qakaa weapons installation south of Baghdad. But these troops never found the nearly 380 tons of some of the most powerful conventional explosives, called HMX and RDX, which is now missing. The U.S. troops did find large stockpiles of more conventional weapons, but no HMX or RDX, so powerful less than a pound brought down Pan Am 103 in 1988, and can be used to trigger a nuclear weapon. In a letter this month, the Iraqi interim government told the International Atomic Energy Agency the high explosives were lost to theft and looting due to lack of security. Critics claim there were simply not enough U.S. troops to guard hundreds of weapons stockpiles, weapons now being used by insurgents and terrorists to wage a guerrilla war in Iraq.” (NBC’s “Nightly News,” 10/25/04)

They were gone by the time that the Screaming Eagles pulled into town. Saddam shipped them off to Syria. Give the bastard some credit for being a pain in the ass, people. He was a smart bastard; how do you think he lasted so long?

But none of you will believe that. You'll go around thinking that Bush is STOOOOPID. Until he beats Kerry next week, in which case, you gomers will be back to calling him HITLERRRRR....

DixieBlix

Tucker,

You and the rest of the prevaricating pundits of positivism are now in full self-parody mode.

Maybe you don't think the turning loose of enough explosives for 760,000 Lockerbies or 4,000 Oklahoma Cities is a bad thing, but the rest of the world does.

I dispute your assertion that the explosives were already gone on 4/9/03 but regardless, they were there BEFORE we invaded, and under the watch of the IAEA. They posed no danger to the world then. They do now.

Maybe, in your mad rush for more power, you and the rest of the Administration don't care about the soldiers who are being killed by these explosives, but I do.

You also haven't explained why, if the Pentagon and NBC News knew about this more than 18 months ago, the IAEA, Condoleezza Rice and the American people were only informed very recently.


daver

You're right Denise. Working people should not support a liberal well-to-do who supports unions, health care for all, and increasing the minimum wage, like Kerry. They should support a fake ranching, Yale-legacy, overtime stealing, draft starting, non-beer drinking, never had an honest job in his life, wealthy elite like Bush, who will keep them uninsured and unemployed.

Fucking Brilliant.

Phoenician in a time of Romans

Denise: "You are calling the troops to task in my opinion and giving aid and comfort to the enemy - along with your obvious choice for president, John Kerry."

That's right, Denise, you tell 'em. The troops don't need to know about tons of explosives that might be used to kill them, and anyone asking Bush where the explosives came from and how the Iraqis got them is a dirty liberal traitor just trying to lower morale.

I'd like to see one of these liberals up against a soldier with his leg blown off whining and moaning about trivial matters like securing explosives depots. Don't they know we're fighting terror?

Elitist liberal snobs!

john

hmmm...just cause the embedded reporter didn't see it doesn't mean it wasn't there.
according to the IAEA...

"The letter informed the IAEA that since Sept. 4, 2003, looting at the Al-Qaqaa installation south of Baghdad had resulted in the loss of 214.67 tons of HMX, 155.68 tons of RDX and 6.39 tons of PETN explosives."


When did we invade...oh yeah...march 2003.

Michigan

denise,

Support the troops, fire Bush.

ed

"Working people should not support a liberal well-to-do who supports unions, health care for all, and increasing the minimum wage, like Kerry."

oh really?

what about the working people who only make minimum wage? or do you not count those people as working?


Hate to tell you this...but people will vote their wallet.

section9

"The letter informed the IAEA that since Sept. 4, 2003, looting at the Al-Qaqaa installation south of Baghdad had resulted in the loss of 214.67 tons of HMX, 155.68 tons of RDX and 6.39 tons of PETN explosives."

C'mon!!!

Who are you going to believe, the Pentagon and the Iraqi interim government, or NBC News???

They were gone on April 10, 2003!!! Miklacewzki said so!!

section9

7:32 comment was not me.

How about requiring a password for comments or at least posting IP addresses?

I'm actually starting to wonder: Is this really Tucker's site or is this an Al Franken or Michael Moore stunt?

ed

is that a trick question?

Ryan

Watch the next week. Kerry will drop like a rock in the polls. Here in a swing state, even better yet in a UAW union town there were more protesters than people who attended Kerry's rally. Bush was here 2 weeks ago and drew 60,000 people. Go cry me a river you filthy liberal slime.

denise

Ron, Ron, Ron, I don't think the conceit is here with me... or the greed.
I am a preschool teacher.

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